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Should you be required to take a drug test to collect welfare?

post #1 of 28
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I just saw this group on my Facebook and thought I would post it here.

Truthfully, I don't know what is right, so I asked my DH. I figured he had a little insight since joined the group AND he was raised on welfare by parents that most certainly would NOT have passed a drug test had they been given one. He feels that the test should be given and, if the parents fail the test, they need to enter a drug rehab program.

Of course, if the parents keep failing the test, despite the rehab, requiring that their welfare benefits be revoked, what happens to the kids? Foster care? Would foster care be better than parents that cannot pass a drug test?

I don't know. What do you think?
post #2 of 28
To my mind, requiring drug testing before employment or anything else assumes that you're guilty and requires you to prove your innocence.

If you're exhibiting behavior that is indicative of drug use, THEN it's justifiable to hand you a p*** cup. Otherwise, no.
post #3 of 28
There's always exceptions to the rule. There maybe people out there collecting welfare that have to take meds that would fail them on a drug test for cancers or other debilitating conditions. At the same time, there could be a raging alcoholic that just won't drink for 24 hours so they can pass an alcohol test and keep on collecting their aid...To make a rule like that will surely punish someone who isn't doing anything wrong while the people who are will find a way around it.

I'm all for limiting the assistance so that people can only collect for so many dependants and not increasing it for subsequent children so children aren't used as paychecks. I am also for making people claim all the money they make in spousal/child support and side jobs so the welfare system isn't just subsidizing people who will work the system. It needs to be there for people who really need it and it shouldn't be allowed to be abused.

I do think programs to move people from welfare to the workforce would be highly beneficial also. That could be a good requirement and help train people for gainful employment.
post #4 of 28
Depends on what they are testing for. Maybe someone is taking a narcotic for pain, or Ativan for anxiety. I wouldn't want those cases to be denied.

Now if you have cocaine or meth on board than yes. You can afford your drugs than you can afford your own food. IMO kids in those situations should be removed until parents are clean.
post #5 of 28
My first response would be "yes", but then I quickly realized that probably wouldn't solve the problem. Like mommamia said, you could be a raging alcoholic and still pass the test.
post #6 of 28
Yes. After all who is that pays for welfare, the tax payers and what do we get for our hard work, nothing but more taxes.

My husband and I have received our DCF license and we were willing to adopt older children but DCF requires reunification in ALL CASES whether it is beneficial to the child or not.

There is no reason why a child can't be raised in another home with a set of loving parents and the birth parents have visitation rights provided they get the help they need to be fully functioning adults and not that 6 month stint either. As a teacher I have seen too many children suffer the consequences of selfish parents and a selfish system.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by ctyankee View Post

Yes. After all who is that pays for welfare, the tax payers and what do we get for our hard work, nothing but more taxes.

My husband and I have received our DCF license and we were willing to adopt older children but DCF requires reunification in ALL CASES whether it is beneficial to the child or not.

There is no reason why a child can't be raised in another home with a set of loving parents and the birth parents have visitation rights provided they get the help they need to be fully functioning adults and not that 6 month stint either. As a teacher I have seen too many children suffer the consequences of selfish parents and a selfish system.

i couldn't agree more. exactly what i was going to say.
post #8 of 28
I think yes. When DH goes to work everyday his boss gets to see him to verify he isn't an alcholic. If he was, he'd be fired and wouldn't get paid.

Those on welfare aren't seen everyday, so I think having a drug test (maybe not even everytime, but maybe random) would help.

When I was on un-employment years ago, I had to prove I was applying for jobs regularly (although I'm not sure how I proved it...) in order to get my check.
post #9 of 28
Yes I think they should but I'd hate to see like deemom said people that are taking certain things because they have to, fail the test.
post #10 of 28
This is a tough one. I would say no. Because that is punishing the children that go hungry. I know that people that do drugs shouldn't have their children but at the same time a lot of drug users do. Just like there are kids with drug using parents that are not on Welfare. I think if they were to do drug tests if they are acting like they are on something, the kids should be taken away but who is to say foster care is any better. Because there are quite a few cases of abuse and drug use among foster parents too.

In my opinion welfare and jobs are not the same. Welfare is to be used for the children not the parents as a source of income. I think that those people should however lose TANIF or whatever money they receive and have the state provide diapers and clothes for those children.
This is just my opinion and I don't really want to debate about it. Melsb asked for my opinion and I gave it.
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