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It wasn't even like she just didn't have a stove or any other cooking item. She honestly didn't know you could cook yourself at home. I asked over and over to my brother that is what he meant and he swore that is the conversation they had, that she wasn't challenged. It's Still hard to believe.
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Yeah another shocker (that my state had to crack down on) was EBT at the casino.
Really there should be programs that just give people food and what they need and nothing else. It drives me nuts that people can use programs and not be held accountable. If you can't afford to feed your family then maybe you should loose the right to buy alcohol, cigs, over priced coffee, gamble.
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EBT stands for Electronic Benefit Transfer. It is a plastic card used like a pre-paid debit card.
ALL state benefits can be deposited on an EBT card including food stamps (SNAP) and welfare (TANF). As Mels said, if child support is collected through the state, then the client has the option to receive the money on an EBT card. Foster parents will also get payments through an EBT card. Sometimes this helps them keep track of how much money is being spent per child.
Mels, sometimes you'll see a high dollar amount on a card because it has taken the state a lot of time to determine benefits or to collect back support amounts. If the state finally determines that the client qualifies for the benefits, then the claim is paid from the date of filing.
When transacting an EBT card in a store that sells non-food items, the user has the option to select "food or cash". Let me explain. If SNAP money is deposited on the account then it can only be used for food. If TANF money is deposited on the account, than it can be used for anything - including getting cash back - or shoes. Hey, kids need shoes, right? However, the database knows if you're trying to use SNAP money for a non-food item and the transaction won't go through.
Can someone buy a grocery item at a cigarette store with an EBT and buy cigarettes, too? Not if the only money on the card is SNAP money. If there is non-food money on the card, then the client can get cash back with their purchase and buy cigarettes, too - or even alcohol. There is nothing illegal about this. The assumption is that the person receiving TANF, child support or foster care money is contributing to their own support or their child's support in addition to the money they receive (TANF is NOT a lot of money; in Idaho the max PER FAMILY was $309 per month) so they probably spent their own money on a TANF qualified expense and are just reimbursing themselves by taking out cash. When we had custody of DD but hadn't adopted yet, she received child-only TANF money in lieu of child support from her biological parents. I would use her EBT card everywhere but sometimes I'd take money out to pay for an activity that didn't accept EBT cards like her gymnastics lessons which were considered therapy for her developmental delay.
Back to Starbucks ...
"Food" under the SNAP program (nationwide) is anything that ISN'T prepared and served hot. You can't go to McDonalds and get a hamburger and fries with SNAP money. What you buy has to be something intended to be prepared at home, consumed later or shared with other people. You can't buy a single-serving bottle of iced tea or soda, or a 12-ounce cup of lemonade or single cookie from the deli case. However, a one-liter bottle of soda is acceptable because it is considered two servings - as are the "mega-gulp" cups from 7-11 (It all makes sense now, doesn't it?) Apparently the Safeway Starbucks in Idaho gets around this requirement of "not serving hot prepared food" because the drinks are iced. The drink size should restrict this kind of purchase but for some reason the drink size isn't specified in the system and so they get away with it. Either that or they are using non-food money on their EBT.
Do I care? Not really. A $5 cup of iced coffee doesn't even hit the radar compared to the other types of fraud that are out there. I'm not about to deny a single mom who has spent all day searching for a job a little "break" by getting herself a frappacino before she picks up the kids at daycare.
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I know a single man who gets $400/WEEK in food stamps. How the hell is this even possible? His weekly government paid for grocery budget is equal to my family's 4-month grocery budget. He's eating lobsters, steaks, purchasing alcohol/beer (again....how is that allowed) every night. Absolutely pisses me off. Honestly, the amount of people who abuse it ruin it for those that use it legally. I say remove all government monetary problems, force (the wrong) to get up off their butts and contribute something, and then reevaluate and start from scratch as required to assist those who temporarily need aid.
Where in the world did this sense of entitlement come from? The whole me, me, me culture is absolutely ridiculous.
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If you know for a fact that this is what is happening - single guy getting $400 a week in food stamps - I recommend you report him.
Now a days, most givernment assistance programs only include adults who have children in their family (or a pregnant female, for instance). Single guys without children - particularly ones that are working - don't qualify for anything.
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Do I care? Not really. A $5 cup of iced coffee doesn't even hit the radar compared to the other types of fraud that are out there. I'm not about to deny a single mom who has spent all day searching for a job a little "break" by getting herself a frappacino before she picks up the kids at daycare.
Agreed. Do I like it? No. But there is so much more going on that I am more concerned about, I agree this doesn't even hit the radar.
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Last year, when my sister tried to apply for food stamps for her 19 yo grandson who was living with them (still in high school), she found out that his father, who has had no contact/visitation with him since he was 12, was getting the boy's food stamps as he claimed that the boy lived with him. My sister reported the guy, but she still got denied food stamps for the boy (they have been unemployed over 3 years).
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