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post #11 of 27
6/26/12 at 5:01pm

Would he really be less secure in a new job? Or is it more a matter of his anxiety over switching jobs?

 

I would mostly consider his happiness.  I'd rather struggle to meet ends meet and have my husband love his job, than have plenty of money and a grumpy hubby at the end of each day.

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post #12 of 27
6/26/12 at 5:38pm
Engineers are high in demand and wages typically reflect it. Beginning engineers make 45000 to 65000. With 5 to 10 years experience most we know make 75000 to nearly 100000. Definitly look around.
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post #13 of 27
6/27/12 at 5:07am

Having worked in HR and compensation, those salary surveys are always inflated big-time.  Another thing to consider is that companies that are hiring now are hiring at a much lower wage than they were.  Just looking at companies salary based on when the person was hired is unbelievable. I've seen people that do the EXACT same job make huge differences just based on whether they were hired during boom times or a recession.

Also your husband's mental health is important too. It would really stink if he got a job making a little more but have his social anxiety makes him miserable.

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post #14 of 27
6/29/12 at 9:16am
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Yep upside down. Our 230K home we bought in 2009 just dropped again to 178K so we are under water by 50K on the house. I was looking at what we would expect if we rented it out. Scary idea but we would be able to rent it for more then the payment. 

 

Today is the day that my DH is going to talk to his boss about a raise. The worse he can say is no and then we can go from there or if we can at least find out if one is in the near future or if the company has frozen all wages as they had a few years back. Wish we had some leverage. I mean his employer knows that he won't walk.  

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post #15 of 27
6/29/12 at 9:52am
I hope the news is good. I know how it feels to be underwater in a mortgage. Currently our home is worth $40k less than what we owe.

Engineers are hard to replace he should get a raise. My husband's work has had some jobs open for 2 years with an amazing starting pay with no takers due to the lack of engineers.
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post #16 of 27
6/29/12 at 2:37pm

I hope your husband is able to get a raise.  I was thinking I would be scared to ask for a raise like others have stated that it might make the company think he is unhappy and then he may not have the job security that you have now. 

 

For me personally, I would rather have job security than get paid more.  My last full time job I got a pretty significant raise after we got new owners, but then things were going downhill with the new owners and I ended up getting let go, so now looking back, I would much rather have the lower pay, but be happier and more secure in my job since now I don't have one.
 

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post #17 of 27
6/29/12 at 6:56pm
I do not think asking for a raise is saying you are unhappy with your work place. My Dh expects a raise every year and receives one. He went 1 year without a bonus or raise. His work explained this to all of their employees due to the economy. Even then the gave the a surprise $1500 and thanked them for their commitment around Christmas. Heck when I worked as a cashier at a drug store I expected a raise each year and received one. It is sad to feel asking for a fair increase is now seen as bad.
Edited by JenJoe725 - 6/29/12 at 7:09pm
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post #18 of 27
6/30/12 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by JenJoe725 View Post

I do not think asking for a raise is saying you are unhappy with your work place. My Dh expects a raise every year and receives one. He went 1 year without a bonus or raise. His work explained this to all of their employees due to the economy. Even then the gave the a surprise $1500 and thanked them for their commitment around Christmas. Heck when I worked as a cashier at a drug store I expected a raise each year and received one. It is sad to feel asking for a fair increase is now seen as bad.

Well you're making the assumption that he hasn't received any raises. I didn't make that assumption from her post. If he truly hasn't received any raises, then yes, I think it's fine. If he's been getting yearly raises all along, then his company may think it's odd why he's asking for another. Like I said in my previous post, my employees all got yearly raises too, but the one time some one asked me for a raise and it wasn't time for his yearly review and raise, all it did was make me cranky and he didn't get one. But hopefully her DH will have better luck!
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post #19 of 27
6/30/12 at 11:21am
In this economy, it really is not realistic to expect a raise every year. I haven't gotten much of a raise for the 4 years I have been at my job (no one else ha s either, it's not just me). Actually, my hours have been cut , I bring home less then I I'd 4 yrs ago. But with places struggling to stay afloat, that is just the way it is. I could demand a raise, but I know there is no shortage of people willing to step in and take my job.
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post #20 of 27
6/30/12 at 11:31am
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In this economy, it really is not realistic to expect a raise every year. I haven't gotten much of a raise for the 4 years I have been at my job (no one else ha s either, it's not just me). Actually, my hours have been cut , I bring home less then I I'd 4 yrs ago. But with places struggling to stay afloat, that is just the way it is. I could demand a raise, but I know there is no shortage of people willing to step in and take my job.

This is true too. It depends on how well the company is doing financially. My DH had to take a pay CUT and give up his gas allowance so we lost several thousand dollars a year in income. Just about a month ago they announced they're going to take them back to where they WERE before the pay cuts, so basically he'll now be making the same as he was about 3 years ago....certainly no raise here. Not every company is doing so well and I know lots of places are doing pay cuts. So I think it's fairly dangerous and foolish to assume that every company is the same and will follow the same pay raise habits.
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