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post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by aliadam View Post

It says she's a 12/14 in US sizes. Still she doesn't look remotely plus size to me. She reminds me of Cindy Crawford.

Yes! She does look like Cindy Crawford. She is gorgeous and a PERFECT size body role model for young girls.

I do NOT consider size 10 to be a plus... I associate over size 16 with plus...but that's just me.
post #12 of 20

So....because I'm thin am I not considered a "real woman"? 

 

The phrases "real woman" "real sized" "plus sized" "normal sized" etc are ridiculous. Women are different sizes, and you can be healthy or unhealthy in a pretty wide area of that spectrum.

 

She's gorgeous, but the nomenclature kills me.

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Karen1985 View Post

So....because I'm thin am I not considered a "real woman"? 

The phrases "real woman" "real sized" "plus sized" "normal sized" etc are ridiculous. Women are different sizes, and you can be healthy or unhealthy in a pretty wide area of that spectrum.

She's gorgeous, but the nomenclature kills me.

I think it means the "average size". I've read before the average size woman in the US is a sz 12-14-16......somewhere in that range. Yet all the models are size 0-2. So I think they're using REAL SIZED as in the size of most women. I doubt anyone is saying thin women aren't real women.....geez....such a problem to have....people thinking you're not real sized because you're thin. I wish I had that to worry about.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by aliadam View Post


I doubt anyone is saying thin women aren't real women.....geez....such a problem to have....people thinking you're not real sized because you're thin. I wish I had that to worry about.

 

I wasn't offended by the terminology, I was just pointing out that I think the verbiage is ridiculous.

 

 

 

In another view, obesity is a problem in this country. I think everyone can agree on that. It is a fact that the majority of people (men and women) are overweight. Is pushing for a woman the size of most to plaster everywhere really a better choice? In this instance I certainly wouldn't consider this model to be fat, she's stunning and appears to be very healthy, so I'm just speaking in general terms. She actually looks far thinner than 'average' as well. I guess I'd rather just see a skinny model over someone who is the size of a good portion of the women in this country. Seeing someone who is overweight in an ad doesn't mean that being overweight is good, it seems like plus sized models are used to validate insecurities a consumer may have. From a marketing standpoint it's pretty genius.  

post #15 of 20

there's a ditch on both sides of the road.  Obese in one and anorexic on the other.  We need to get back to the middle lane.... 

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by bananabellesmom View Post

there's a ditch on both sides of the road.  Obese in one and anorexic on the other.  We need to get back to the middle lane.... 

Well said.

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Karen1985 View Post

I wasn't offended by the terminology, I was just pointing out that I think the verbiage is ridiculous.



In another view, obesity is a problem in this country. I think everyone can agree on that. It is a fact that the majority of people (men and women) are overweight. Is pushing for a woman the size of most to plaster everywhere really a better choice? In this instance I certainly wouldn't consider this model to be fat, she's stunning and appears to be very healthy, so I'm just speaking in general terms. She actually looks far thinner than 'average' as well. I guess I'd rather just see a skinny model over someone who is the size of a good portion of the women in this country. Seeing someone who is overweight in an ad doesn't mean that being overweight is good, it seems like plus sized models are used to validate insecurities a consumer may have. From a marketing standpoint it's pretty genius.  

I guess again....I don't get your point. The ad is for CLOTHES so they're wanting to show how the CLOTHES look on an average sized woman. When I look at a size 2 model it's impossible to tell how it's going to look on my large, saggy boobed body. Now I'm not expecting them to show the clothes on an old, large, saggy boobed woman, but they should show them on what MOST of the women in America looks like.....which is not 5'11' and a size zero. They're not saying ANYTHING about how being large is better than being thin, It has NOTHING to do with health. That's for medical articles or news articles, not clothing ads. I doubt that all the thin women of America are going to rush out and gain a bunch of weight because they saw some model who was *GASP* a size 12 in an ad!!!!
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Karen1985 View Post

I wasn't offended by the terminology, I was just pointing out that I think the verbiage is ridiculous.



In another view, obesity is a problem in this country. I think everyone can agree on that. It is a fact that the majority of people (men and women) are overweight. Is pushing for a woman the size of most to plaster everywhere really a better choice? In this instance I certainly wouldn't consider this model to be fat, she's stunning and appears to be very healthy, so I'm just speaking in general terms. She actually looks far thinner than 'average' as well. I guess I'd rather just see a skinny model over someone who is the size of a good portion of the women in this country. Seeing someone who is overweight in an ad doesn't mean that being overweight is good, it seems like plus sized models are used to validate insecurities a consumer may have. From a marketing standpoint it's pretty genius.  

Eating disorders and general low self esteem are also problems in this country and the size zero models don't help. I recently read an article with Tyra Banks who said, if she was starting out today, with the same measurements she had started when she first began modeling, she would have been considered too fat to model. There is something pretty screwed up with that system of marketing. Yes, obesity is a problem but it is not going to be something cleared up by parading a group of size zeros around a bunch of fat people. Size 0 did not even exist when I went to school.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by melsb View Post


Eating disorders and general low self esteem are also problems in this country and the size zero models don't help. I recently read an article with Tyra Banks who said, if she was starting out today, with the same measurements she had started when she first began modeling, she would have been considered too fat to model. There is something pretty screwed up with that system of marketing. Yes, obesity is a problem but it is not going to be something cleared up by parading a group of size zeros around a bunch of fat people. Size 0 did not even exist when I went to school.

But clothing sizes have changed. I'm a 4 and can't get my mothers old size 8s past my thighs. When did we start changing clothing sizes to make people feel better about themselves. If someone is getting their self worth from a label or some strangers picture then they are going to have problems regardless.

post #20 of 20

I don't think clothing sizes have changed for women, instead I think the disparity in size is more due to the cost/quality of the clothing and where it is made.  When my kids were little I noticed a huge difference in same size for Oskosh B'Gosh versus something made in the Philipines.  How do you tell relatives when they ask what size your child wears, "well buy him 18mos if it's made in America and 3T if it's from overseas".

 

I personally like seeing ad's with women that fit more the average or norm.  To me it's no different than how marketing ads now show a lot more Asian, Hispanic and African American people. If companies want people to buy their product, the consumer needs to feel like they can relate to the ad in some way.  I stopped buying from Victoria's Secret because of their insistence on photo-shopping the models to some ridiculously thin, elongated shape.  I now buy my bras at Soma's Intimates.  So far, their ads show women that look like they don't starve themselves. I hope they don't change.

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