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post #31 of 56
2/28/07 at 6:19am
The one thing I find interesting that nobody is brought up yet is that there is no comparison to energy usage of any other homes in the area that are generally that size. We all agree that a mansion that size will use more energy than your typical 1400 square foot home, but there is no information as to how much energy a home that size requires. We look at those numbers and think they are insane, but maybe they are lower than the average mansion. None of us have been inside his home, we don't know what kind of light bulbs he has. The media is so quick to find something wrong in order to stir the pot, they often don't present both sides of the situation. Yes, Gore is publicly promoting the documentary, and maybe is using more energy than he should, we don't know. But should he have waited to put this research out until his home was 100% green so there wouldn't be this kind of media backlash, or is it more important that the information got out to the masses as he is still working on doing what he can?
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post #32 of 56
2/28/07 at 6:32am
sj1968 and Sunburn107, excellent points!!! People are so quick with the critcism!!! I knew there was more to the story than reported in the original article!! And remember, Gore is doing a heck of a lot more for the environment than most people!!!
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post #33 of 56
2/28/07 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by sunburn107 View Post

The one thing I find interesting that nobody is brought up yet is that there is no comparison to energy usage of any other homes in the area that are generally that size. We all agree that a mansion that size will use more energy than your typical 1400 square foot home, but there is no information as to how much energy a home that size requires. We look at those numbers and think they are insane, but maybe they are lower than the average mansion. None of us have been inside his home, we don't know what kind of light bulbs he has. The media is so quick to find something wrong in order to stir the pot, they often don't present both sides of the situation. Yes, Gore is publicly promoting the documentary, and maybe is using more energy than he should, we don't know. But should he have waited to put this research out until his home was 100% green so there wouldn't be this kind of media backlash, or is it more important that the information got out to the masses as he is still working on doing what he can?


Very nicely said.
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post #34 of 56
2/28/07 at 9:44am
It is distorted. I saw a report on this the other night, but then it went on to elaborate that Gore advocates that everyone look at their own energy footprint & try to reduce from there. Every family will have a different footprint. My energy bills went up a lot when my husband started working from home more. Lights, heat & computer were on more because he was home. Obviously, larger homes will cost more to heat than smaller homes. However, the report I saw also showed that Gore buys his energy from a source that uses green energy - things like water & wind power, which then sells their energy. It's not like he's burning coal. And they are looking to add solar panels. Solar panels are not for everyone - it depends on where you are in the country, how much sunlight you get, what direction your home faces, etc. They are just trying to grab onto something minor. What's the message? "Gore uses more energy than you, so go ahead & keep using energy?" At least he's turning the spotlight onto a problem that has been ignored since Carter was in office. Oh, the coverage i saw did mention the kind of light bulbs he had. I forget the type, but they are the long-lasting low energy ones. The kind that look curly.
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post #35 of 56
2/28/07 at 11:09am
I actually love that Gore is trying to help make the world a 'greener' place to live and I can't wait to see the movie. One of my biggest fears is that our children will inherit a very sick planet. We need to do something about it. What I *do not* like is that if the report is true then Gore is being a hypocrit.
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post #36 of 56
2/28/07 at 1:01pm
I really love what is being said in defense to Gore. Yes, Gore should have been ready to take on this roadblock - he's a politician for goodness sake...you think he would be prepared for critism especially after bringing his movie mainstream. However, this is the same as the critism for John Edwards over his new mansion and the irony of his work to reduce poverty. John Edwards does not have to be poor to help combat poverty. Gore does not have to live in the wild, wipe his bottom with tree leaves, and bathe in a lake to help bring awareness regarding Global Warming.

I would like to see the whole story, as well, and more data on his energy consumption verses others in his area with similar sized houses. It's sad really, though, because critics will take this "dirt" and use it against the Global Warming movement. IMO, environmentalists will now have to DEFEND Gore instead of what they are really fighting for...A better, cleaner world.
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post #37 of 56
2/28/07 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by bennis_mama View Post

Gore does not have to live in the wild, wipe his bottom with tree leaves, and bathe in a lake to help bring awareness regarding Global Warming.

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post #38 of 56
2/28/07 at 1:49pm
I'm sorry, I'm laughing at all the back and forth going on. Sure, the numbers are probably true and sure Gore should probably try to reduce his bills, but how much would it cost the "average" person to light and heat a house of 20 rooms? My gosh, that's huge! We use an average of 990 kWh per month, winter months are less, summer more. Our house is around 1900 sq. ft. Seeing as his house is 20 room, 8 bath I will assume it's 10x the size of my house, probably bigger. The article on the first post says that the residence costs an average of $1359 a month for his electricity and uses an average of 18,414kwh. Let's say his mansion is 19,000 sq. ft., which is 10x my house he is still using 2x the electricity that we would use in the same sq.ft. I did the math and he is paying about .005 cents more per kWh. Now, the $1359 is for both houses (the gas bill is separated into main and guest houses) and there would be more sq.ft. involved. I think to really make a good opinion, you really need to know exactly all the info on which to base it on. Even if he is using alternative energy sources, he is still paying around .073 per kWh. I'm not sure if this makes sense to anyone but me. I'm not very good at explaining what I mean when it comes to math!! :D
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post #39 of 56
2/28/07 at 2:06pm
I already stopped reading the replys frankly b/c I don't want to, but with that said I think there should be some sort of comparison to other mansions and until that occurs nobody knows what the numbers should be. Of course the numbers are higher than the average house, to expect otherwise is simplistic.

edited to say: ok maybe I should have kept reading but it appeared to be going off the road. I have since read most of them and many have already pointed out what I just said.
allgirls
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post #40 of 56
2/28/07 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by allgirls View Post

Of course the numbers are higher than the average house, to expect otherwise is simplistic.

I'm sorry there are so many "simplistic" people here you have to deal with. I guess I didn't read the posts that said they didn't expect him to use more than the average house. I did read ones that thought 20X more was excessive. Maybe I'm one of the "simplistic" ones here.
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